Comments on: The Physics of Puella Magi http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/ Anime, Games, J-Pop and Whatever Else Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:40:09 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.7.2 By: T http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-835988 Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:40:09 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-835988 Or you can just accept the fact that they have the technology to tap into power they have no ability to access themselves. Madoka’s wish did reshape the universe.

Also, Kyubey states their ethics preclude suggesting wishes. So it’s not unreasonable that someone could wish to abolish the entropy limitation. The issue is finding someone at that age who would think to make such a wish themselves.

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By: [Steins;Gate] – Genuinely deserved awards – I swear it's not Hentai http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-831519 Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:14:28 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-831519 […] has hawt secks with Madoka  the tension appropriately escalates to peak levels despite being theoretically flawed. On the other hand Back to the Future had two sequels and come on, nobody actually liked […]

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By: Otalinks: 13 a 21/03/2015 – Yoroshiku!! http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-827608 Thu, 31 Mar 2016 23:07:43 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-827608 […] texto do blog Ramblings of DarkMirage sobre a Física em Puella Magi Madoka Magica, pra quem acha interessante… (Em […]

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By: Otalinks | Otaku no blog http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-820361 Mon, 23 Mar 2015 04:08:24 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-820361 […] texto sobre a Física em Puella Magi Madoka Magica, admito que não li todo o texto (TL;DR), mas pra quem achar achar […]

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By: ... http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-732551 Wed, 01 May 2013 07:40:56 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-732551 What if Earth IS the suggested “loli farm”, and the conditions here are created (or at least manipulated) to be ideal for creating young girls with hopes and dreams that can be easily fulfilled with the technology available to Kyubey’s people?

Who’s to say that finding and harvesting energy from young girls is harder for Kyubey than it is for humans to harvest eggs (or wheat)? What must his perception of time be if he is immortal? Even if a girl takes years to sign a contract, that’s peanuts compared to the time until the eventual heat-death of the universe, which Kyubey and his civilization obviously care about.

Perhaps the parralell between Kyubey’s emotion harvesting and the energy industry goes further. Perhaps loli energy is like fossil fuels, in that the main reason a different energy source isn’t being used is that the infrastructure for loli energy already exists. Changing to another method of harvesting would drain resources from an already existing practice, possibly for long enough that the net gain isn’t enough to do so. Perhaps, again like fossil fuels, the alternate dimension’s energy is not unlimited, and Kyubey will only change to another method of collection once there are no more girls to harvest?

“Perhaps there are more efficient ways to collect energy, but why not take advantage of this one while it lasts? I’ve already started: Why fix what’s not broken? If your species ends because of it, I, like the universe and will be rather indifferent.” /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\

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By: Shikome Kido Mi http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-676879 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 05:28:50 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-676879 Ah, a couple more points, since I’m nothing if not long-winded and pedantic. Worst of all, after writing this I realized you I’m using points from episodes you might not have seen when writing this, but that’s where some of the best evidence (though it’s all circumstantial based on the dialogue of unreliable people) lies.

You’re right, of course, that a farm would be more effective than ‘the wild’. But that’s where the statement that Kyubey’s people have been managing human civilization comes from. While they do seem more hands off than optimal, it’s supposedly no accident that humans have managed to reach the top of the food chain, overcome repeated obstacles to their growth and reach a state where the population is continually growing. The fact the aliens really don’t seem to understand things like why human teenage girls are the best source of magical energy (though really it probably has to do with hormones and inexperience) means that they probably weren’t originally aiming their farm at cultivating those specifically but humans in general while they determined what worked. That said, suboptimal, I will grant you.

As for why it’s aliens and magic rather than aliens or magic, I like to think of it as the results of a thought experiment: “if magic existed, and trumped all physical laws, what are some of the high order things it could be used for that would interest people(aliens) that didn’t have it?”

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By: Shikome Kido Mi http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-676849 Thu, 03 Nov 2011 04:31:46 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-676849 Actually, I find myself in the “only when granting wishes” camp on time-travel. For one thing, if ‘granting wishes’ was under the aliens’ control they’d be able to shut down wishes that were counter-productive to their goals, which both Homura and Madoka seem to be evidence against. Once we get to ‘wishes’ and time-travel, it’s entirely possible that wish-granting is fueled by an initial release of magical energies. To wit, the normal powers of Kyubey’s civilization are not capable of granting time travel, at least not without harvesting human souls, at which point you’re back where you started.
But more, the point of the story IS that a wizard did it. Specifically, that human souls basically have magic powers fueled by emotion and advanced aliens that don’t understand magic or emotion are doing their best to harvest them (it’s why the energy lets them avoid entropy costs in the first place).
That is to say, it’s not a setting with advanced aliens OR magic, but a setting with advanced aliens AND magic.
Furthermore, it seems generally implied that they don’t completely understand either humans or the very process they are using a couple times during the series (though observation has led them to some “doing A usually equals B” rules of thumb). In the long run, turning Madoka into a witch is rather like killing the golden goose, for example.

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By: QB http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-514345 Fri, 10 Jun 2011 22:08:47 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-514345 For the fun of it, you could make quasi-plausible arguments for some of QB’s physics by drawing on polymath David Bohm’s three world architectonic: world 1 = intentionality space, world 2 = stochastic space [(dy/dx) = -yx], which obviates the Schrodinger’s cat paradox since only one state is objectified. [His argument was: what if a quantum event probability is not 0.5 but 0.000001? Why postulate 999,999 redundant universes?], and world 3 = one objectified space [where you are]. Next, factor in Bohm’s short-lived infatuation with Krishamurti, which suggests his familiarity with the old Greco-Indic mentalistic, vitalistic, and physicalistic meta-forming forces. Then recall the vitalistic was postulated as the source of will, particularization, and emotions. And voila: what else could serve better as virtually unlimited sources of raw will and emotion, which some advanced civilization could then use to reconfigure Bohm’s world 2 and thereby reverse entropy trends in world 3, than groups of dis-empowered lolis with personal agendas? QED

BTW in your dissertation, try reworking the Standard Model to reflect this new information, lol

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By: lol http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-2/#comment-500906 Tue, 24 May 2011 23:13:49 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-500906 Reminder: this series is fiction, any similarity with reality is just coincidence.

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By: Puella Magi Madoka Magica « Canned Memory http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/2011/03/06/the-physics-of-puella-magi/comment-page-1/#comment-485846 Mon, 02 May 2011 01:09:33 +0000 http://2pwn.tk/websites/www.darkmirage.com/?p=1508#comment-485846 […] just different to other beings (for a spectacularly good explanation of some of this, I recommend Dark Mirage’s post). And all this on top of the standard magical girl emotional drama of love, friendship, family, […]

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